tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post6221727966106161801..comments2024-02-19T02:45:32.125-06:00Comments on Allyn's blog: WHAT GOOD IS A "SILENT" CRITIQUE?Allyn Stotzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00125021589041199877noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post-68561640149886122732011-09-12T07:19:20.454-05:002011-09-12T07:19:20.454-05:00Hey Allyn! I nominated you for an award over on my...Hey Allyn! I nominated you for an award over on my blog today.<br /><br />http://outonalimbshywritergoessocial.blogspot.comRuth Schiffmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02625363295823548969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post-24603130281041167102011-09-09T10:09:59.894-05:002011-09-09T10:09:59.894-05:00Allyn-
Over the years I have been involved with g...Allyn-<br /><br />Over the years I have been involved with groups similar to just about every description you've posted above. Although, I admit, I love the "ruthless" ones (because I'm good at assessing what I want to change and not easily offended or crushed).<br /><br />But I am so glad you posted about the importance of good Critiques. We're launching Rate Your Story next month and it's intended to help authors who need an outside opinion on their story get one for free, from a professional.<br /><br />Thanks!Miranda Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00479324010424718024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post-44355461050241853472011-09-09T00:40:08.963-05:002011-09-09T00:40:08.963-05:00I agree, Allyn, a good critique doesn't have t...I agree, Allyn, a good critique doesn't have to be hurtful and has to give hope in improvements. <br /><br />@ Anne: Can't believe they'd turned down someone with more experience. To me, more experience = more helpful contributions to my ms ... (Not that I'd exploit you like that okay? hehehe)Claudine Guehhttp://www.carryusoffbooks.com/blog.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post-30325427956371833532011-09-08T19:51:03.707-05:002011-09-08T19:51:03.707-05:00Anne,
A critique group wouldnt let you join becaus...Anne,<br />A critique group wouldnt let you join because you were too experienced!!! That is really weird. I would think they would have really valued you as a member in their group. Go figure. Guess that just showed they werent the right group for you to join at the time. But don't let that stop you from trying again once you feel the need. A good group is really worth it for everyone involved.Allyn Stotzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00125021589041199877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post-50757952136756666082011-09-08T19:48:02.301-05:002011-09-08T19:48:02.301-05:00Inluvwithwords,
You are so right, learning the cra...Inluvwithwords,<br />You are so right, learning the craft of critiquing is a job in itself. It took me quite awhile before I felt I even knew enough to really give my opinion. However, the person I was referring to who is basically a "silent" critiquer has been doing this longer than me, a published author, and so I don't think her lack of knowledge is the problem. Thanks for your input!Allyn Stotzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00125021589041199877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post-64906218235437877342011-09-08T19:44:48.077-05:002011-09-08T19:44:48.077-05:00Jonathan,
You should definitely look into joining ...Jonathan,<br />You should definitely look into joining a critique group. But try to find one that is flexible if you don't have that much time to devote to it. One of mine, we submit a story once a month and the other weeks we spend critiquing each others stories so it really doesnt take that much time. And most times well worth the effort. Goodluck!Allyn Stotzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00125021589041199877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post-41997983808845213312011-09-08T15:08:43.290-05:002011-09-08T15:08:43.290-05:00Very interesting break-down of critique groups.
I...Very interesting break-down of critique groups.<br /><br />I've never been in a formal group. The one time I tried to join one, they wouldn't take me because I was too experienced. Hmm... Happily, I have many writers, editors, and avid readers among my family and long-time friends, so they've done a good job of beta-reading so far. I'm sure I'll try a critique group at some point.Anne E. Johnsonhttp://anneejohnson.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post-89426701802444902952011-09-08T12:15:06.898-05:002011-09-08T12:15:06.898-05:00Hi Allyn! I've been part of a group for about ...Hi Allyn! I've been part of a group for about five years now, and I think we've been #1, #2 & #3 at times as we've evolved. We started out as just a bunch of friends who loved to write. The group was really all about just staying motivated to write. Over time, we've all become more serious about the craft and have tried to morph into more of a critique group. But it's been rough. There have never been any brutal critiques so that's a plus.<br />I think critiquing is a hard thing to learn. You really have to be an analytical thinker. I would allow the "quiet" member to remain in the group. Once they learn how to give feedback, they may have a lot to offer.<br /><br />And thanks so much for linking to my contest!!Ruth Schiffmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02625363295823548969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3813968394302283378.post-58342947080385547972011-09-08T11:27:35.190-05:002011-09-08T11:27:35.190-05:00We've been getting hit by the remains of Lee u...We've been getting hit by the remains of Lee up here in Maryland and Virginia too, and it has NOT been fun. I figure I might feel like smiling again one day, when the sun is out again. <br /><br />Anyway, number 3 sounds the best to me, but I have a feeling that might be the rarest critique group of them all. I've thought about joining a critique group but haven't had the time to find one. This makes me think twice. I certainly could use it...Jonathan D Allenhttp://jonathandallen.comnoreply@blogger.com